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October 27, 2005

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JK

You've gotta check out the new Propagandhi disc! It just came out last week. The song, which precisely shadows this post is fuckin' some of the best punk rock I have ever heard and felt.

Ladies and gentlemen: Die Jugend Marschiert

Enjoy! And get the disc!

Kyle

Now is a good time to have a conversation centering around those Nazi's who never killed anyone, but whose participation ensured the death of thousands.

I love Propagandhi, but I'm a "how to clean everything" and "less talk, more rock" kinda guy.

DigitalDjigit

I am confused. Are the above comments spam or for real?

JK

This comment is spam. But the above three are not. ; )

S2 de Tejas

Back to the PSA from deconsumption:

Right on, Holmes! This kind of thing
needs to be said. We engineers and
scientists are too willing to focus on
NEET-O technical issues while abdicating
responsibility for how our work is used.

I recently made a similar case regarding
the glorious military robot race in the Mojave.

Perhaps we need an cartoon rendering of the
"battlefield of the future", complete
with cyborgs, robots, space-based weapons,
and some engineers scratching their head
over their "grave mistake" in upgrading
the Murdertech kernel before testing was
finished...

Perhaps if we bring the subject up enough,
folks will start paying attention. Keep
up the good work!

Cornfed

But will the engineers be prepared to quit their jobs, abandon their houses and go sleep on their parents couch? I would be, but most are not. If you extend this thinking to other jobs, arguably it is well nigh impossible to lead a moral lifestyle and still survive in this society.

Kylark

arguably it is well nigh impossible to lead a moral lifestyle and still survive in this society.

Well therein lies the root of a great deal of our problems.

Phila

Great post...thanks. I hope someone's listening!

Chris Ball

I'm an engineer, and I'll say right now that I'd work on something like this in a heartbeat. Think about it: regardless of who is funding the research, this could be one of the greatest inventions in human history! Think what it would be like to have perfect memory, or to be able to do computations in your head thousands of times faster than your biological brain could do them. It would be revolutionary!

Consider, on the other hand, all the thousands of engineers who work on designing better guns, bombs, warplanes, etc. They know full well that what they're doing is ONLY going to be used to kill. Yet for some reason you don't mention this case at all, and only mention the case which is morally ambiguous because SOME of its MANY uses are violent. I mean heck, the INTERNET was originally designed for military purposes; are you saying that the guys who invented the internet are sociopaths?

Steven Lagavulin

But it IS the military which is funding the mentioned project. What do you honestly think they're interested in? Whatever the spin they put on it, it still has to do with making more efficient weapons -- although in this case the weapons are the human organism itself. The internet argument is irrelevant -- the military didn't develop the internet as a "weapon" (and again, the stated purpose for these "brain chips" is to make better soldiers), and they also played no role in bringing the internet into the public domain. That result which was not related to their intended purposes.

I'll also add my personal opinion that I'm not even remotely interested in acquiring photographic memory or being able to caluculate advanced operations in my head. In my experience, those things don't even begin to approach a real consideration of what it is I want and value in my life. And I don't believe they'll contribute significantly to the Human Experience of the species either. I believe those are mistaken or misplaced priorities. And I might further add -- and I mean this with sincere respect -- I think this is a widespread fault of modern scientific culture, that they all too often fail to understand the divide between their dreams and fantasies of "a better world that might be..." and the actual practical results of the things they pursue. Because of this, what we find in reality is that the vast majority of scientists (in all fields) don't really serve "human society" at all, but are entirely directed by the interests of wealthy people and entities; and those people are expecting specific, subjective benefits in return for their investment. Yes, we can certainly recognize some examples of "pure" scientific discovery, but these are far and wide the exceptions when we consider all of the "products" of the scientific community.

And for the record I'm not a Luddite and I'm not preaching that humankind should not advance in its knowledge. I'm only trying to show that one must always try to be considerate and responsible for themselves and their actions, and that a paycheck does not resolve one from personal responsibility.

On a different note, I would pose the question: do we really need to discover how to artificially "boost" our brain functioning? Or is it perhaps more beneficial for us to explore and learn to understand that functioning -- on a personal level and as a direct experience -- and then to consider why it is that it seems so inadequate to me? And then, armed with this understanding, I could begin to wonder how I might develop these functions to allow for a more engaged and a more satisfying experience of my life. Isn't it true that all the increased knowledge about materialistic-specialization does nothing to address this basic human striving?

A study of my inner functioning through direct sensation and experience is very much a scientific study. But it's one which does not encourage a feeling of isolation between my "self" and the world I experience outside of myself. So it's a tuly integrative science, not a divisive one.

Bloody Spike

That's quite the philisophocal approach to the matter. I agree, we should be made to understand our own horizens instead of augment ourselves to reach such a capacity. While I admit, it would be quite nice not to have to pay that much attention in my algebra class to remember everything, I think it is morally wrong to try and boost what we were given at birth through fate. Please exscuse any spelling mistakes. I'm plagued with horrible spelling and grammer.

Wadard

Hmmm, I'm all for science and I know a lot of development come out of military research. Give me stem cells for breakfast on french toast, bacon and maple sirup, but if the US military is doing this stuff it makes me kinda scared. They seem so fascistic lately that anything in their hands is disconcerting.

Wadard

Hey Bloody Spike - wnat to eus mya spellig and grammer chip soem time?

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